Idiotic Ignorance
This month's copy of Discover magazine had the following letter to the editor in it, from a man whose name is not Joe:
"...I am sick of scientists tiptoeing around the topic of religion. Scientists need to make it clear that if you believe in God you are most likely an idiot or at best uneducated."
And the mouth of genius has apparently spoken! Thank you, Joe, for your edifying and enlightening remarks. I always thought that I was a pretty educated sort of person--I graduated in three and a half years from a highly competitive, private, secular liberal arts college, cum laude and with departmental honors. Yet somehow, I did, and still do, believe in God. Huh! How very strange. Well, now I know the answer--I just must be stupid! And to think I never knew!
Lots of thousands of dollars down the drain. Pity.
Why is it some people consider a belief in God as incompatible with either intelligence or learning? When science first began, it was not something separate from religion. It was not divorced from belief in the divine. If anything, those who studied it did so because they wanted to see the divine just a little bit closer--to open the window to heaven and catch, if they could, just a glimpse of the glory they saw only in shadows here on earth.
Last night I saw part of the Stephen Colbert Show, and Colbert was interviewing some scientist guy that I can't remember the name of now, who said that believing in intelligent design was "intellectually lazy." Leaving aside the question of the theory of ID as it is being presented to schools, etc., how could a scientist ever say that belief in a divine, creative mind at work in an amazingly complex, highly diversified universe is not in any way intellectually stimulating? Are you kidding me? Thinking about God makes my head hurt, lots!
But maybe that's because I'm an idiot.
Well, I digress. Getting back to Joe--the fact is, he founds his "argument" (gah, I hardly like to honor his ridiculous generalizations with the word) on nothing more than his own emotional reaction against "religious fundamentalists," whom he talks about next, saying,
"Do [scientists] think that polite silence will stop religious fundamentalists from burning copies of Harry Potter books or pushing science out of classrooms? To treat beliefs as if they mean anything merely elevates them to equal status with science."
It is difficult to follow the sophisticated logic of Joe's reasoning, mostly because there isn't any. From what I can see, the real issue is that he doesn't like the people who burn books in the name of God and want Genesis 1:1 to be the starting point for science classes. I am not quite sure how he then makes the leap to his assumption that anyone who has a belief in God must be lacking in intelligence and capability for rational thought, but I suspect that it wasn't by any sort of scientific method on Joe's part.
Look, you can peg me for insufferable arrogance if you like. That's probably true enough! But don't call me stupid, and don't tell me I am uneducated. That will only prove your own ignorance as you display your inability to carry on a meaningful, logical conversation about anything important.
And in my book, that makes you the idiot.
"...I am sick of scientists tiptoeing around the topic of religion. Scientists need to make it clear that if you believe in God you are most likely an idiot or at best uneducated."
And the mouth of genius has apparently spoken! Thank you, Joe, for your edifying and enlightening remarks. I always thought that I was a pretty educated sort of person--I graduated in three and a half years from a highly competitive, private, secular liberal arts college, cum laude and with departmental honors. Yet somehow, I did, and still do, believe in God. Huh! How very strange. Well, now I know the answer--I just must be stupid! And to think I never knew!
Lots of thousands of dollars down the drain. Pity.
Why is it some people consider a belief in God as incompatible with either intelligence or learning? When science first began, it was not something separate from religion. It was not divorced from belief in the divine. If anything, those who studied it did so because they wanted to see the divine just a little bit closer--to open the window to heaven and catch, if they could, just a glimpse of the glory they saw only in shadows here on earth.
Last night I saw part of the Stephen Colbert Show, and Colbert was interviewing some scientist guy that I can't remember the name of now, who said that believing in intelligent design was "intellectually lazy." Leaving aside the question of the theory of ID as it is being presented to schools, etc., how could a scientist ever say that belief in a divine, creative mind at work in an amazingly complex, highly diversified universe is not in any way intellectually stimulating? Are you kidding me? Thinking about God makes my head hurt, lots!
But maybe that's because I'm an idiot.
Well, I digress. Getting back to Joe--the fact is, he founds his "argument" (gah, I hardly like to honor his ridiculous generalizations with the word) on nothing more than his own emotional reaction against "religious fundamentalists," whom he talks about next, saying,
"Do [scientists] think that polite silence will stop religious fundamentalists from burning copies of Harry Potter books or pushing science out of classrooms? To treat beliefs as if they mean anything merely elevates them to equal status with science."
It is difficult to follow the sophisticated logic of Joe's reasoning, mostly because there isn't any. From what I can see, the real issue is that he doesn't like the people who burn books in the name of God and want Genesis 1:1 to be the starting point for science classes. I am not quite sure how he then makes the leap to his assumption that anyone who has a belief in God must be lacking in intelligence and capability for rational thought, but I suspect that it wasn't by any sort of scientific method on Joe's part.
Look, you can peg me for insufferable arrogance if you like. That's probably true enough! But don't call me stupid, and don't tell me I am uneducated. That will only prove your own ignorance as you display your inability to carry on a meaningful, logical conversation about anything important.
And in my book, that makes you the idiot.

6 Comments:
At 11:26 PM ,
skwerlman7 said...
Sometimes, you should let us know how you really feel.
At 3:17 AM ,
Anonymous said...
Are you going to write your own letter to the editor in response to Joe? I think you should!
Aunt B
At 11:54 AM ,
grackyfrogg said...
good idea, aunt b, think i might. and i will try to be nicer than i have been here. i was a little mean, wasn't i.
well, i can't always be nice!
At 12:03 PM ,
grackyfrogg said...
i was thinking though...i mean, of course there are some things i am not as well-educated about. i wasn't a science major, for example, so i suppose one could argue that i am uneducated about science, though if you want to get technical about it (gah), i was educated, i just didn't retain the information i was educated with. do what you will with that!
but anyway, that wasn't what joe said, or implied. and that's what annoys me--this determined predilection among people, whether atheists or believers (it happens with both) to just assume that because the other side doesn't believe the way you do, they are intellectually inferior.
(dr kent hovind is one of the representatives on the creationist side of things who annoys me about as much as joe did--and in case you hadn't noticed, that's A LOT.)
i mean, they might as well say, "you're stupid cuz you're dumb." that's about as good an argument as many that i've heard, joe's (and dr hovind's) included.
ah, circular reasoning! where would today's society be without it? i ask you.
At 12:50 PM ,
thelittlekappa said...
I love it. Ha! You said "cuz."
At 12:18 PM ,
Erich said...
Let's just say I went someone went to a State College. Would they be an idiot? Can this person do deeds to earn their keep in the smart club? I wish I was a scientist, then I could study idiots like Joe and make up complicated reasons for his dumbness. Is dumbness a word? I know dumba$$ is.
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